Tuesday, August 08, 2006

Albert Einstein Quote


Did God create everything that exists?

Does evil exist?
Did God create evil?

A University professor at a well known institution of higher
learning challenged his students with this question. "Did God create
everything that exists?"
A student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes sir, he certainly did," the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything; then God
created evil and, since evil exists, and according to the principle that
our works define who we are, then we can assume God is evil."
The student became quiet and did not respond to the professor's
hypothetical definition. The professor, quite pleased with
himself, boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the
Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand andsaid, "May I ask you a question, professor?"
"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked,"Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you
never been cold?"
The other students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the
laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of
heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or
transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or
transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat; and
all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature.
Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we
feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."
The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness
does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light.
Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact, we can use Newton's prism
to break white light into many colors and study the various wave lenghts
of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe whathappens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil
Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course, as I have
already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily examples of man's
inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence
everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God.
It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
The young man's name -- Albert Einstein.

Therefore my beloved brethern, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 15:58


Blogger HotRodHanna said...

Absolutely true. Thanks for sharing that.

4:39 AM  
Blogger mysti said...

I loved this! Thank you for sharing it. I have several friends who are rather down on the Christian faith right now that I would love to share this with, if you do not mind?

4:59 AM  
Blogger Badbeans said...

Wow, Auntie D. I never really thought of evil that way. I have always known that man is responsible for his own misery, but I have never quite looked at it from that perspective. Great post.

1:12 PM  
Blogger Auntie D said...

Go for it mysti!!! If I post it, it's fine with me to share whatever and whenever, etc. Someone emailed it to me and I shared it here because I felt it was worth sharing. I loved it.

It states the Truth and has been my opinion but I have been unable to put it in words as he did.

I have stated at other sites that I would rather put the emphasis on the SALVATION and not punishment and this explains why I feel that way, better than I have ever been able to.

2:21 PM  
Blogger Wadical said...

What a powerful story! What a powerful argument! Good post, cuz.

9:40 PM  
Blogger WayneDawg said...

I love that story and have heard it quite a few times.

While it is a great story of the discernment of good and evil, I'm afraid Einstein's part in it is an internet hoax.

According to http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/e/einstein-god.htm and http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp, the encounter between Einstein and the professor never took place.

But that aside, I agree with Badbeans on that perspective of good and evil; I have never looked at it like that before.

4:57 AM  
Blogger WayneDawg said...

Mysti -

You say you have several friends who are down on the Christian faith.

Do they consider themselves to be Christian? Or are they friends of yours who are not Christian and are just put off by the Christian of today?

Just curious.

4:59 AM  
Blogger one more patriot said...

Absolutely wonderful!

7:34 AM  
Blogger Auntie D said...

waynedawg, just so you will know, when I first read it I kinda figured it was a story made up but the substance of the story is just so true and so important, I don't care who said it or wrote it. I believe the substance of it.

patriot, I miss your blog hon. I have decided to limit myself to those blogs which are enlighting and encouraging and I considered your's to be one of those and now you are gone.

12:10 PM  
Blogger 'Tart said...

Hello Auntie D,
Thank you for your comments on my blog - I'm so glad you visited! I have read some of yours and I very much like this post. Definitely a case of a student becoming even greater than any of his professors! I love that he believed in himself no matter what, a person that sure and so intelligent makes the world a better place in many ways.

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if the dialog points out legitimate truth, it is hardly becoming of a follower of Christ to spread a false rumor. There is no evidence that such an encounter occurred, and it is very unlikely that it did. If you want to post it as a parable, fine, but then replace "Einstein" with a generic "young famous scientist" and make it clear that this is a fable / parable / story.

Don't pass of lies as the truth ... you know that to be wrong.

5:15 AM  
Anonymous Tim Davis said...

p.s. my previous "anonymous" post wasn't meant to be anonymous.

... Tim Davis (Univ. of Florida)

5:16 AM  
Anonymous oneman said...

This is nothing more than a myth. I love the story though, it's beautiful, but lets deal in truths.

I love Einstein for one amazing beautiful truth, he was a scientist and always dealt in what could be measured. In addition, he possessed spirit. He knew there were things that couldn't be measured with the tools we are 'given'. That's why he was a scientist. He wanted to simply understand as much as he could. He found wonder in it.

We read things people write, post, or publish in books, and are very lazy as a people. Don't believe everything you read. When you find something you connect with, FIND THE SOURCE. Understand it. Study it like Einstein. Then go study it's opposite. Read everything you can find, bad or good. Understand all sides. Don't be a hypocrite.

Never stop seeking truth. God is everything. If you are true to yourself and that within you, and most importantly, allow nothing but truth into your life, you will find "God".


Let's see if I get censored.

Peace and love to my fellow human species. I love you because we are all connected to one another. We are one.

Lets just love and respect one another. There's enough hate and selfishness already.


I look forward to hearing from my family :)

9:34 PM  
Blogger Phylodome35 said...

Einstein was **NOT** a christian as you dolts understand the term. He did not believe that Jesus was holy, nor was the Xod he spoke of the biblical Xod. He was a deist, and this isn't even a real Einstein quote, it's just an urban legend. Sorry to burst your naive little bubbles, have a nice day.

5:52 PM  
Blogger Will Daniels said...

I find this "quote" so very typical of religious misrepresentation and obfuscation in that a superficial poetic beauty belies a thoroughly rotten core of hypocrisy and immorality.

I think we can safely ignore the false accreditation to Einstein as being irrelevant in the face of much more dangerous implications here. It does not take much effort for an unclouded mind to start connecting the proposition of this story to actual real-world concepts of "evil" to see that it just does not fit.

"A fact will fit every other fact in the universe, and that is how you can tell whether it is or is not a fact. A lie will not fit anything except another lie." —Robert Green Ingersoll

Aside from the more typical notions of evil, how does this explanation relate to mere "misfortune" - the unjust suffering of innocent victims of circumstances (cancers, for instance) that cannot be attributed to the hand of some other "godless mortal". If evil is no more than some default condition that occurs in the absence of God, then how do such natural evils of the world befall even the most devout?

Furthermore, why attribute evil to the absence of God? Why not the absence of "humanity"? By what right does God and religion take credit for the ethics of mankind, as though we were all running around the desert murdering and raping each other until Moses came down from the mountain one day?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." —Edmund Burke

Does this not apply to deities also? At least "humanity" has the humility to accept the consequences of it's inaction also. Don't you find it rather convenient to blithely attribute all good to the love of God and absolve Him of all evil "just because"? He wouldn't do that, so he must clearly be "absent"? That's certainly not what your own scriptures say, is it? The "good book" is awash with terrible and bloody tales of His evil deeds. Is it really the work of a loving and merciful God to forsake those who are not "blessed" with faith? This is OK with you guys, is it?

Well, I guess I needn't ask really, since that is the ultimate logical conclusion of this story. Apparently horrible things only happen to those who have it coming. Sins are only committed by those don't love God. I suppose the Inquisition just loved God in wrong way then (how terrible of them to have taken Him literally at His word when they read the bible - they should have tried harder to interpret correctly, so they had it coming too).

And by the same logic, any atheists who do good deeds (yes, we do have kindness and ethics too) are...what? Cosmic anomalies? Loving God unintentionally? Or does good sometimes just happen without that divine influence anyway? In which case, why are you so quick to credit Him with it the rest of the time?

Anyway, I could go on and on about this (and no doubt come up with more succinct and stronger points to demonstrate the immorality inherent in that story) but I know I would only be wasting more time, since any rational person who cares enough to think about it properly can see the same. But they are not going to admit it to themselves when it looks so much prettier from the angle of blind faith. I apologise if anybody finds this comment offensive, but I feel compelled to respond somewhat harshly when this kind of deceptive platitude is presented in answer to what is a very fundamental, important and serious question - the morality of God - which all religious followers need to answer honestly, for themselves if they are to avoid the horrific atrocities so commonly committed in His name.

7:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This story, I hate when Christians say things like this, The above poster made some really good points but just my 2c.

I most surely do not think Albert Einstein would have said this, as a person like he was he most likely was atheist. Plus this is too poetic for an obsessive physicist.

Back to my first point- I relaly hate when Christians say things like this. Religion is a human invention. Its fine to beleive in it if you want but remember there are two reasons for religion being around- it helps people accept life explaining the things they don't understand as religious things (why we think, why the world exiss, whats the meaning of life, etc). Secondly its a way for some poeple to have power over others.

This story also would be quite offensive to anyone who isn't Christian, it offends me. Its a blanket statement saying anyone who doesnt beleive in God is evil.

Now the definition of evil, that is a whole other essay. To make it short this is mostly a cultural thing. Regardless inaction must be the biggest evil for it is the most purvasive. Reading this and feeling good is all and well but actually going and doing something is better.

Now for the most part I don't really hate Christianity. The message is *good*. However the requirement that people beleive the story as fact is wrong, that part closes the mind to new ideas and innovation. The element of hypocrisy within the church is also sad.

Stephen M.

6:17 AM  
Blogger Knonie said...

Laws of Physics should not be implemented on Faith, I think...

Please bear in mind that this story is a work of fiction and is in no way related to actual life of Albert Einstein...
That name is added just to make it look more authentic...

And also keep in mind that this logic is not applicable for all the things, as this story said.

If you talk about the real existence of things, then there's no existence of "Darkness". Darkness is simply something where there's no "Light". Similarly, "Cold" is the absence of "Heat", [i.e. Motion of atoms/molecules]
But evil is NOT the "Absence" of "Goodness".

"Bad Paths" and "Wrong ways", do exist. Choosing and walking on a wrong way is your *choice*. So we cannot say that someone is going on the wrong path just because the right path doesn't exist. [As the logic says that evil is the absence of goodness]

**So, that example of light is related to physics, while Faith is something different and it's better to keep the scientific rules separate from Faith.**

Although, that story is quite an impressive one and can fascinate a person emotionally.

7:45 AM  
Anonymous cialis said...

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8:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The claim that cold doesn't exist because the laws of physics say it's merely the absence of heat is semantic game-playing. Heat is a noun, the name of a physical phenomenon. Cold is an adjective, a description. To say that something is cold, or that we feel cold, or even that we're going out in the cold, is not to assert that cold exists. It's simply a way of describing the relative temperature of things.

The same applies to light (in this context a noun), and dark (an adjective). It's true that when we say, It's dark outside, the phenomenon we're actually describing is a relative absence of light, but that doesn't mean that by speaking of the dark we're mistaking it for a thing that exists. We're simply describing the degree of illumination we perceive.

So, it's a philosophical parlor trick to posit heat and cold (or light and dark) as a pair of opposite entities, only to reveal that the second term doesn't really name an entity at all, but merely the absence of the first. The young Einstein would have known better, and so would his professor.

9:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are fu cken idiot atheists. Sure it is not the quote of einstein but it IS the way how one human explains to another that god exists. Just write down that it is not the quote of him! Don't bother yourself posting about religion is way to 'rule' people.
You don't even see everyday miracles in your life! Can't you simply see that to do bad things is way easier than to do good things?
You believe that everything that exists is accidental? Do you believe that your life is accidental? That somehow, billions of factors accidentally fitted this planet to make us live here? Than, I accidentally ask you, who is good at maths, or better ask maths professor to calculate, how comes that in this world where are billions and billions galaxies in billion square exist an even more, how comes that on any of planets (I do not mean one) all those events happened accidentally to make it fit for life form?
I am sure, the numbers will not make you happy, maybe you will think again do you really exist? But clever professor will respond that all that events that makes earth possible to live, are possible to be spread all over the galaxies and planets, one by one, one event for a planet, and even that will be too much! But all those things to happen on one planet (perhaps on only one planet)?
Wake up your mind and think adequately.
And sorry for my english.
Think again!

12:32 AM  
Anonymous Pure Sophistry said...

This story is stupid in that: Einstein never held such a position, the problem of evil can't be explained by equating it to hot/cold, and faith in god is NOT the same as faith that I have a brain in my skull. We've picked apart the story and welcome ALL comments and debates, we also have a poll about faith we'd be interested in your votes:


12:50 PM  
Anonymous Logical Illogicalities said...

Not an Albert Einstein quote.

In future please, as fellow a Christian, I ask that you be a little more devoted to the truth instead of a poetic and (let's be honest) fairly nonsensical fiction. It should not take the concoction of such a story to assure someone of their faith. In fact, if a person has truly experienced Christ in His entirety they will not need an inspiring tale to keep them connected.

It is misrepresentations like these which can give Christianity a bad name and turn people away from realizations of truth which can only be found in biblical canon.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the people who believe in god want truth and want to do away with the lies, then where is your proof? There is no proof because there is no god!! Why is it that when you are a young child you are taught to believe in Santa Claus, then you grow up and no longer believe!! It is because he does not exist and never has. Show me hard empirical evidence of a creator and maybe I would consider listening to your nonsense about god!! You put your faith into a so called higher power but have never seem any proof of it. Until all you believers actually take physics and graduate with a BS, all your talk about god is completely worthless and a waste of time!! In the near future science will prove without a doubt that there is no god, and never ever has there been one. The big book of lies and deceit has taken all you fools for a ride and most of you are so brainwashed by your upbringing that you still want to buy a ticket. Education and knowledge can do wonders, try it!!!

3:05 AM  
Anonymous Mark D - Melbourne said...

A story for people who do not think, Einstein, as other posters have already mentioned, did not hold this view and certainly would not have said such rubbish. This is a story made up by a Christian with Einsteins name fraudulently added to give a stupid story an element of credibility. The same kind of literary process the bible writers have used.

4:43 PM  
Anonymous John said...

This is the most stupid thing I have ever read. Not only is it fake, as this is totally different from Einsteins original ideas, it poses the Atheist professor as an idiot who does seem to understand science himself. The questions posed on evolution are wrong and would only be spoken by the ignorant. First of all, we did not evolve from monkeys. We did share a common ancestor. Whats more, evolution is showed and you can see it. Look at bacteria that changes from natural selection and mutation. Think before you believe everything you read.

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